"they do not seem to be very good at communicating to Louis what their point is.". i will because of seeing this be praying for this family and fasting. I am surprised the interviewer never asked " What about 'Judge not lest ye be judged also'?" The guy is clearly basically a fascist. It doesn't seem like anyone in the compound is getting laid, but he didn't spend much time talking to the men, did he? What does this say about human nature? 56: son of man? Never got an answer to my letter and none of the Phelps clan has responded in the Topeka Capital-Journal (their hometown paper) where I also posted the letter, or anywhere else. Watching those children...I can't even explain how sad it makes me. I also advise that the church change the placards which preaches hatred and doom. Im going to stop now before I start saying some quite mean and probably illegal things. AND THAT INCLUDES THAT I TURNED FROM IT. true to fundamentalist christianity?? I fail to understand that it is not man who shall be the judge but God? But what is there to say? Why do they? And the Steve Drain guy, I have no idea how he was converted, he must just be the stupidest person to ever live. $200,000 per year in travel expenses to do their picketing, purchasing passports probably would not be an issue. My original intent was not to "recruit" anyone, but to make clear that WBC does not represent Christianity in any form or function. That's the trouble with mankind, that they make things which are so easy so hard to accomplish, go one day without thinking a bad thought about anyone, try it, telling a lie or gambling on the lottery or betting on a horserace, there is not one person in this world who can't, so we all disobey the law, also read the mosaic law of 613 in the Mitzvot, you really think Christ wants us to keep them. Also, you can tell the family and Steve Drain, despise Louie with a passion; but when you look at it in it's entirety they secretly hate-to-like Louie because this is their big break and they know that "any attention is good attention", especially mass media! —Psalms 21:11. I like both of your posts quite a bit in fact. You do not want to talk to me anymore? Leave, go somewhere you think is either not damned or is less damned than this country. Yes, sin will be judged in God's timing, but we are called to love and to save those who are parishing, not to wish for their destruction and/or death. Well, like I said before I just can't refrain myself from opening my big mouth.But this was worth a little comment. You religee's spouting all this nonsense about how your god is love! Seriously, just leave if you're that upset about it... You have a right to free speech. They should have their children taken away. Regardless, I doubt God/Jesus is an evil source who inflicts pain and suffering on "GAYS" please people get with the program. No one is right. Why has anyone got to die? You must be str8, cuz you sure as hell wouldn't be saying that LOL :D. one of most entertaining religious videos. Just watch, and wait.. Life will bloom and burn, according to the rite of it's own evolution. Here is one family that is. Alexandra Bergeron We try to understand other people beliefs but it is very hard to when they spread hate. Maybe one day, we can all just accept each other, forget hatred and love ourselves and one another before World War III breaks out over our raw animalistic nature and fear of unknown. God loves us all, infinitely, you too haha :) if we as Christians are right. Luke 22:36 3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? He has lost some of his family as they have left the fold and went to greener pastures to seek a life away from him. Also here is a few sin's that God states are ones He abhor's. In other words, all mankind should feel responsible and ashamed that it is our own collective sins that have brought about such groups. Your life style is sending you to hell? We are all sinners Lord, but we can be saved by grace. Think about it.. God can and does anything.. I mean, there's a nice bridge at about a two minutes walk from my house under which a bunch of hobos live, so I've been thinking of coming out. You say pretty straight forward, well that is not straight forward from you, it is straight from someone else in this case Feynman. Living as the beasts of the field, like you ? We have a God in Heaven who is our Father so we still have parents even though we are adults. Ultimately, if I came across as forcing it on you, I do apologize. I work with families like this all the time...it's called domestic abuse! To put it in material terms remote paired particle spin, hologram, fractal maths all display this. for Fred phelps to say they are the only ones teaching the truth and going to make it to the kingdom of God is way off base, he is cussing in church, rejoicing over deaths and horrible things I don't think this is right that is sick and the devil delights in tragedy and death. The result is cca 116.000 civilian deaths and for what? They are NO ONE! I guess that her hated comes from the sexual abuse she experienced at the hand of he father, and the alienation she felt from others who were enjoying their sexuality. Oh the Church is donating monies to send Hate out on vacations. I found myself asking - if they truly rejoice when someone is sent to hell, what is the next step? keep in mind : fascists never sing and next is a gay : not a hate song : Oh, sinner man .. Where you gonna run to? Not even God would want to be a part of that! Gay is so much more "interactive" as a descriptive word for homosexuality, whereas "fags" is less emotionally interactive with what gay sex is. Doesn't the Bible say that everyone's sin is the same? Freedom for minors cannot be considered the same as freedom of adults. Degradation of women is woven into the very fabric of our society and so we do not notice it! I also respect anyone who believes in 'God', as that belief brings hope and comfort to peoples lives, which i also respect and understand. Suspend your judgement for a while. Would they picket their own if they were forced into a war by a draft? And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. ;). sleep tight x. However, obviously, when the bible says "sleep as a man does with a woman," it means intercourse. Arent't they based in America??? either he doesnt know everything and can change his mind, or he doesnt know everything and can change his mind. I love God with all my heart; He is my greatest treasure, the joy of my heart, the love of life. Also, I noticed that the family has no reservations about using profane language which is also against the Word of God. I agree, by way of Ted Haggard as an exemplar, the most outspoken anti-gay individuals often reveal themselves after years of repression to be latent homosexuals themselves. God designed the Universe for opposites to attract, from the particle + & - and on up to male and female. i had to remove your link as it did not work. Does this mean they will eventually die off? Unwillingness or refusal to tolerate or respect contrary opinions or beliefs, persons of different races or backgrounds, etc. And what do you mean practice in their own REALMS? These people are obvisually obessed with a religion that they don't even know half about. As someone stated before Louie does an awesome job of getting them out of their comfort zones and in doing so revels a lot of their own uncertainties/insecurities about what they have soaked up from "gramps". Another probably more enjoyable option would be making some stinkbombs, sitting at their side and holding your own sign which says: "Free Stinkbombs". As many stated they are mentally ill. No doubt about it in my mind. God didn't want humans to have free will and was very upset when they took it without his permission. Maybe not all on this page but I've viewed quite a few comments on youtube. So perhaps our first amendment right to freedom of speech has been abused and misconstrued to allow this behavior, which is in fact what most people are upset about. They will just tell you that you cannot see the light of God and don't understand the way He works. I dont get it. well that would be too personal. as you put it. Seriously, you think he cares?? Well, if they are right, and God hates fags and everyone else who exists except these delusionals, then I will welcome Satan to my soul when I die, because nothing will convince me I'm wrong when I say homosexuality is fine. they are mostly very well educated lawyers who have read the bible more than both you and I put together. Notwithstanding, I'm actually hoping they all repent before the hammer falls, but my gut tells me most will not. Maybe you don't read the Bible and don't believe it, but I do believe it and have read many stories where they were given consequences for their actions! All I heard was "Obama, soldiers, America". Demographics are shifting to the 3rd world and away from the "traditionally" Christian countries where very dark days are coming. Proverbs 24:17 Rejoice not when your enemy falls, and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles.................I love fighting them with their own book. I have a husband and we are in ministry together. That decision is to be left up to Him. God is merciful and so good. The point of this documentary, as I see in its structure and some of the ‘dumb’ questions that were asked was to look at the lives at a humanitarian level of the people. I simply say that I don't believe in fairies. Even their posters show two men bending over. As an aside, the bulk of reproduction on this planet occurs by cellular division and has nothing to do with opposites attracting anything. Can't believe a grown man believes that also. I don't understand why she would though.. if in her belief she is going to heaven. In my opinion, they are preaching the "god" of the old testament: the vengeful, psychotic genocidal lunatic. all the virgins as slaves[KJV Numbers 31:13-19]? Look what inbreeding can do to the human brain. God's foreknowledge: You ask good questions, but we can place on God definitions that may or may not be within His character. "Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, nor any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. " I think she's just fishing to see if you have any form of faith at all and what it might be. "[Matthew 10:34], "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." thats like saying "god hates vans, there for your family is going to hell for driving and riding in vans" it makes no sense. Religion alone does not make a true follower of God, as there is a plurality of religions worldwide. Like all offensive things they lose their power if you stop giving it to them. but if they did they cant do all of the protests on other countries otherwise theyll get arrested because america is they only country with freedom of speech All of these things keeps you away from the will of God. I felt especially empathetic toward Megan. so whose work are they actually doing? i hope they get ignored and fade away into obscurity. The Phelps' message is in accord with scripture. Atheism isn't "a belief". However, it isn't as extreme because you don't picket dead scientists funerals. The way to win the argument is to be kind and friendly to them. Also, their logic and ability to argue is razor sharp. 'The most hated family in America' is a participatory documentary where Louis and his crew interact with the the subject, in this case the subject is a family at the heart of the Westboro Baptist Church. It's very late in Asia! People need to wake up and see that all these religious beliefs are no good for us. Christians kill each other every day and they continue to kill. Try watching and LEARNING what the Westboro Baptist Church believes and the reasons behind their faith. Living my life doesn't mean stepping on/over others, I'm a nice enough bloke - prob. This is a sad situation where biased parents with unsound ideas are prejudicing their children unfortunately. WOW. We would do very well with you not being one of us....American. I don't mean to offend you personally, but I have a few thoughts on what you said. I wasn't trying to be rude and it is easy to misinterpret my messages with out tone and inflection. true, we cant tell people how to feel, but we could try to change ideas. They ALL need serious, intensive therapy. Jesus made it possible for us to repent of our sins. We are NOT here to judge. They are not in the limelight anymore and so they are doing whatever it takes to get back in the headlines. 1 Corinthians 6:2-3 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? Reading my earlier post it’s very hard to believe you think I’m saying homosexuality is wrong, it seems more likely you’re trying to provoke something or divert attention away from Phelps and his Church’s duplicity. Batistuta you said "consider her as a nun". Sorry, brah, I was a going through some s*** last night, and I read your last post wrong. "I hope they get hit by buses".. "I wouldn't mind beating the crap out of them" etc... (not exact quotes, due to language and other things...) I don't get it. Its just sad to know that there are people teaching and spreading on about this, about God in this way. No? [Luke 22:36]. It is a cult. Allen found hypocritical Phelps-Roper's vocal condemnation on strangers having sexual congress outside of marriage while she herself was guilty of the same. No mercy? Louis Theroux is an interactive documentary filmmaker. Hypocrisy involves the deception of others and is thus a kind of lie. The Most Hated Woman in America. THEY will rot in Hell, and all the homosexuals that they hate will go to Heaven. Do you believe in "the rapture" goes hand in hand with your imaginary friend in the sky. i mean dead soldiers funerals really!? The Bible is a guide. All anger does is eat away at you and make you hate everyone. You should think about that. Their family is the only thing they’ve got, because from the time they are six years old their family ostracises them from the rest of society. OMG, you brazen Serpent..! That whole family scares me. Lying Witness Who Gives False Testimony: You don’t know or understand the truths from God, but are spreading around untruths to others and not allowing them the right to grow. is there any way to conclusively prove that god is real? Their conduct is completely unacceptable and a disgrace to actual Christians. :(. Organized Religion is Undeniably Responsible for More IGNORANCE & INTOLERANCE than Anything in Humanity's History. Jesus Christ loves you. i feel sorry for the college-aged daughter. az. Yes, many of their answers angered me, and I was surprised at how level headed the reporter had stayed while talking to them. Louis goes to South Africa where American tourists pay to hunt wild animals in privately owned reserves. Hypocritical much?? “Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded. I don't get it. I don' know I LOVE EVERYBODY and I worship MY GOD! Notice the flag was upside down in one scene? Free speech is a right, and when you show yourself to be irresponsible to uphold that right unto yourself, it should be taken away. They imbed in their children a hatred only Hitler and other terrorists would appreciate. God knew a long time ago when and who would be gay. You, sir, are obtuse. I would like to see these folks repent and seek forgiveness. That, and the fact that Phelps never answered a single question. It is just my opinion, and I believe that opinion to be very close to the truth. To give us the opportunity to have our sins forgiven. They are corrupted, that is for sure, but you don't want them put in an institution for the criminally insane because you want to protect everyone's free right to speech, not just those you like or can tolerate. Does not mean that we should but we are human and God knows that. I was framed I tell you!! It boggles my mind! They have a job to do. Aren't you slacking on God's judgement a little bit?" The Most Hated Woman in America (Trailer) More Details. There is nothing wrong with that so long as we do not mistake consensus for evidence. It will crumble when the old man dies. I hope I am wrong. . God has called us to save souls and preach the gospel (GOOD NEWS). The Devils' gonna hear you .. Don't make a sound .. I like how they follow the word of God but I didn't hear the Bible being taught verse by verse, sounded like a topical sermon directed only towards one cause. I know this group pisses people off... a lot... but I hope that you watched it all the way through, and see that there are a small few, really hurt people in this group... that know nothing but pain... if you see that then the documentary did its job. I would just like to say them brave of America who dont bowe infront of lie by Goverment. The Second Person of the Trinity, who would become Jesus when born, had to be born somewhere, and so God chose the lineage of Abraham for his faithfulness. the fact that there are 6 billion+ people on our planet is a sign that we are reproducing too much. Good luck in your quest for answers. I think encouraging any of these young girls that they could become mothers is a mistake. This group comes off as a cult. It's ok to make it clear that your (the reporter) point of view is different to theirs but it's not cool to mock them if this is suppose to be a serious documentary and not an entertainment piece. 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