I have always pin basted but I am going to attempt spraying basting this next time. I frequently layer batting and put the wool on top. Pingback: Why Bamboo Batting Makes the Perfect Summer Quilt - Suzy Quilts. It’s a nice high loft batt that shows off the stitching very well, especially for custom/decorative quilting where you want all that work to stand out. You can actually patch holes in batting without lumps or thick spots, for those times that your really cute and lovable dog/toddler decides a nibble of batting might make a nice mid-morning snack. I may not using the second batting this time because I don’t want to have to quilt inside the actual applique so I believe I am going to sew my backing and batting together where I made the panel then begin machine quilting all layers at the edge of the panel outwards. I have used W&N but, I prefer hi-loft polyester batting. Merry Christmas to you! Thank you for this important i formation. I think if you can’t see the needle punching, then it probably doesn’t have a clear front and back. Having the scrim down reduces batting migration during this contact. What is the difference with or without. I think you’ll have a nicer baste then. Why don’t the packages give you this information??? When I first started quilting 35 years ago, you just took whatever batting was available and quilted it and moved on. If you see little tiny balls of batting, like the little pills that have formed on the sweater you’ve worn every day this week (I know it’s not just me), you’re looking at the “bottom” of your batting. Quilt up to 8" apart. New Topics; Member List; Calendar; Forum; We don't know much, but we know quilters; Quilting Questions; If this is your first visit to the Missouri Star Quilt Co's "Quilter's Forum", be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. We sell it here at the shop, and I always assumed it was a scrim batting, but now I’m not so sure. Some of that batting was donated to my guild and we use it for charity projects. I am new to quilting and still have so much learning to do. It is that kind of loss that helps me to savor what I do have, wonderful adult children that I enjoy spending time with. by Sara Snuggerud in Sewing Tips. Deb E / CA. I don’t dwell on them but as you said in your post, a part of me died and that never leaves you. Cotton quilt batting without scrim can typically be stitched up to 8″ apart, and if there is scrim it might go all the way up to 12″ apart. Only batting that has been needle punched during its origin has a right side. I checked out the Quilters Dream website to make sure we had the info about the scrim right. And thank you for the birthday wishes! The Scrim also gives the batting strength and body. I can help! This is such a good article! , This article is very interesting and informative. The scrim side has pills or pimples. Batting that has a scrim also has direction. This is important to be aware of, because if you place your batting wrong-side-up, you’ll have issues with consistent thread tension, and your quilt may grow more of a beard! Loft: 1/16", Shrinkage: 3-5%. Easy peasy… Now maybe I won’t confuse myself! My heart and home was full. 100% Natural Cotton Batting without scrim allows for a stitching area of up to 4? And that’s the case with this product too. The material can be quilted up to 4" apart, for easy handmade projects. Now there are so many different varieties (which I appreciate) but I don’t know how to put them to their best use. Now, not all batting is finicky like this. You may be able to lift or separate the scrim at a corner of the batting. You want this side, and all those little balls, to go against the backing of your quilt FOR SURE, and this is why: if your needle tries to push one of these dense little fabric balls through the batting and out the other side, it’s probably going to take some of the fibers with it. I have washed my batting as long as their is a scrim. (Read more about batting and scrim here.) Your batting is right-side up. I actually thought I knew the answer to this, but when I started reading the responses from you in the question thread, I realized that there is a lot on this subject that I need to research. I'm just trying to understand WHY they did it like this. They’re your easy-going, low-maintenance friend that you don’t have to tip-toe around, and we all need some of that in our life. Matchstick Quilting) - Suzy Quilts, This was an excellent article on batting and extremely informative. I was devastated. Heather Miller, I have not used 100% silk batting, but I absolutely LOVE Quilters Dream Orient which is a silk/bamboo blend. The scrim prevents batting migration through your top. Take a good look at your precious bit of batting, and see if there are small pin holes (these look like dimples) in its surface. While quilting you do have to take care that you aren't dragging it up and over anything, if it needs adjusting do so gently and with love and the scrimless batting will love you gently back. Last week, on the Suzy Quilts Patterns Facebook Group (yes, I hope you read that like the episode recap narrator of your favorite TV show), someone asked if there was a right and wrong side to quilt batting. It falls apart. We’ll see if that works…last week I could only remember that there was a right side and a wrong side, but nothing more than that. A 100% natural cotton usually allows quilting up to 4″ apart; that same batting with a scrim binder can be quilted 8-10″ apart – so … F – 100% Cotton Batting With Scrim – Needle Punched is made of 100% Ultra Clean Cotton fibers which provide softness and durability. Thank you also for all the great information on batting. 100% All-Natural Cotton Batting is breathable, drapeable, and easy to stitch by hand or machine. But don’t take it off. Be careful and make sure your not making ticks underneath. Thoroughly enjoyed reading your info on the different battings. Moreover, there will be no needle resistance that you might find with some battings. Check out the Quilting 101 tab for everything you need to know to start your first quilt! I also am blessed to have 2 daughters through adoption as well. Having the scrim in your batting is essential. Here at SQ you will find free sewing tutorials, product reviews, basic how-to’s, design inspiration, and quilt patterns geared toward you – the chic, modern quilter! Thanks, I know what you mean. Good luck and thank you so much for this tutorial!!!! Even though it sounds to me like another holiday villain that hates Christmas and wants to steal all your gifts, scrim is actually a light material adhered to batting to help hold it together. What the heck is that. Happy Birthday!! I can’t wait to share this info with the gang. Looking forward to your blog and seeing the pics where that baby gets here. Great info and refresher for those of us who get a bit lazy when basting quilts. It was a hard road to walk but I met many wonderful people who were going through the same thing. Quilters Dream Orient Blended quilt batting Bamboo, Silk, Tencel and cotton King size ( 122" x 120") Case (4) Since Dream Wool is bonded, it doesn’t have a right or wrong side. (On quilts at least!). I do, however, really like the stuff with the scrim. (I think this close up photo of my wool batting looks like an underwater sea creature. These don’t have a right and wrong side. Batting with a scrim is great for machine quilting, but it is not recommended for hand-quilting because of its density. I have used Pellon and Warm and Natural with great success. Quilters and crafters trust and love natural cotton due to the time proven qualities it lends to all projects. Happy Birthday and congratulations on your soon to arrive blessing. It has a wonderful density and is very warm. Sign Up for the Newsletter, Get a Free Pattern! Then the next month I took another pregnancy test, positive. What an amazing story! Now that I’ve “met” you, I know about the different battings and my quilting will improve because of this knowledge. Now I finally have this knowledge. We need to talk about the sides of batting, and how to make sure we stay on its good side. Which one goes on top and which on bottom? (FYI it doesn't – don't be confused.). The most common batting no scrim material is cotton. The needle punched cotton batting has a no scrim, needle-punched design to facilitate hand quilting projects. I've used both and to be honest, there's not a ton of difference once the quilt is done. I really enjoy your e mails and glean many hits. Made from 100 percent natural, ultra-clean cotton, it adds strength, durability and softness to your projects. I’m assuming my longarmers understand the difference in battings, but I need to be smarter about it so I appreciate your thoroughness! (I have no idea what I’m asking so don’t feel bad if it’s a big deal!) Thank you for your willingness to share your personal experience of loss. One challenge you may run into is wrinkled batting right out of the package sitting on top of wrinkled batting – making it hard to baste. I’m not a wizard but learned this the hard way!I love printed materials vs onscreen so this is my work around! I would make a practice sandwich because I doubled batting once thinking it seemed too thin and then it was too far, lol. Feel the batting. You guessed it: beige. I ended up giving birth to a beautiful healthy daughter. I’m very curious why they wouldn’t say that right on the front. Let’s brainstorm some ideas. So, thank you. Strong, but also soft ( and softer after each washing ), Hobbs Heirloom ® Premium 100% Natural Cotton with Scrim Batting is perfect for quilts where a low loft is desired. I do quilt with other quilters and we open the package and throw it on the frame all the while smoothing it out never knowing it could be on the wrong facing, Yikes! is made of 100% Ultra Clean Cotton fibers which provide softness and durability. If you are buying batting that has been folded it is my experience that the batting is folded so that the back is inside the fold (the front of the batting is to the outside of the fold). What the heck is that. I only recall my own losses after hearing of another miscarriage, such as yours. I do have to sew around the outside of the center extra batting. Nature?? Your explanations are always easy to follow. FBT is another acronym for BFF. If you can see those little pin holes, congrats! Scrim This is a layer of a netting-like fabric (not necessarily made from the same fiber as the batting itself) that helps hold the batting together. This Pellon Natural Cotton Batting With Stabilizing Scrim Binder is 96" Wide and comes in a 9-Yard Bolt. I’ll be remembering it as if the needle-punches are little “inny” belly buttons. The scrim side may appear pilled or pimply. Congrats on your pregnancy. No matter what the package says I never quilt further apart than 3-4". I have been looking at batting and have seen the ones with scrim and wondered what it means and which way to use it and also the needle punch and what it meant too, so thank you so much for this article in explaining them to me! Love your patterns and helpful hints. Hard to tell but it's one side bolster. I’m a novice in quilting,so any/ all hints are greatly appreciated. I mistakenly brought home a bolt of the 80/20 without scrim once, and it was very stretchy and not good for the long arm. Hey Pat, I don’t know how to turn this into a PDF, but you can bookmark it in your web browser so you can come back to it easily later. Gee I am so confused, my hubby dear man went and brought me some cotton batting without scrim. My brain couldn’t provide any more helpful information than that! Because batting with a scrim is stronger and more stable, you can place your quilting stitches further apart—as much as 8-12″ apart, versus a maximum of only 3-4″ for batting without a scrim. This was such a great post! Se attached pic of padding. I remember it this way – Show the dimples, hide the pimples! Thank you. Pay attention to the details! This is one of the ways I’m able to support myself and continue writing free content. It can be so confusing sometimes. Totally mesmerizing if you stare at it long enough...). Sometimes I recommend products, and if you click on those links, I may earn a small commission. Batting, also known as wadding,is usually used in quilting as an insulation layer between fabrics. This 100% cotton batting has a thin layer of mesh scrim added in to stabilize the fiber. There are 61 batting no scrim for sale on Etsy, and they cost $68.15 on average. Thanks so much! So glad you enjoyed the info! In many cases scrim is needle-punched into the batting, and Quilters Dream supports the “quilt the same direction the batting was punched” method, so let that be our rule of thumb. Check out our batting with scrim selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our shops. It not typically recommended for tied quilts. When you run your hand across the scrim side of batting, it feels rough and coarse compared to the other side of the batting. Each roll contains six yards of batting. Once you’re in that dialog box you can either save it as a PDF or print it. Cotton batting will typically have about 1-3% of shrinkage when you wash and dry your quilt for the first time. If you can get your hands on some Quilters Dream Cotton Deluxe or Supreme, that is the GOOD STUFF. And if you have a Mac, from the print dialog window in the lower left corner there’s usually an option to Save As PDF! Quilters Dream Puff quilt batting thermal bonded and sealed by the roll King (120" x 20 yds) Roll Only $226.20 On SALE for only $203.58 Lighter than a feather, yet warmer than down! You can verify this by looking for the small hole in the batting as noted above. , I recently used the bamboo batting for a jellyroll quilt I made for myself. Thank you so much! You can learn more about that here. Sorry i forgot to say what sort it is Legacy Brand Style L-NB-96 it says Natural cotton 100% cotton matural it says 1/16. I’ve been quilting off and on for 20 years. I’m not finding a batting called that on their website. Quilters often debate whether the scrim side goes up or down. I like your explanations. 100% Cotton Batting by Pellon?? I wish I had known this before I had made my quilts! Quilters Dream cotton is excellent batting and it doesn't have a scrim and you can quilt up to 8" apart and comes in several different lofts. Your goal is to make sure that the needle of your machine is headed in the same direction as those needles did, once upon a time. I mean, we covered How to Choose the Right Quilt Batting here and The Truth About Black Batting here so what else could there possibly be to talk about? If it is bonded, however, place the scrim on the side of the batting which will receive the most wear. thank you in advance, When you use 100% cotton batting, you need the quilting stitches close together to keep the batting from separating. Two years later I was pregnant then miscarried around 2 months. Now I have a question: I’m considering using two batts for my next quilt, Quilter’s Dream Wool and Quilter’s Dream Request, both of which I’ve used for years. Thanks Suzy for the information! Some batting is definitely more difficult to “needle” than others. It appears flatter than the other side of the batting. They say it’s never too late to learn. Thanks so much for the information! Enjoy every moment of your pregnancy and birth. I gave birth to big, 6+ and 7+ pounds, healthy baby boys a month later. New to sewing? Scrim is a very thin, mesh stabilizer that is needle-punched into the batting to add strength and stability. Now, you might not see the batting when it’s inside, but this is the thing that makes those quilts look so beautiful. ... item # LE045 Pellon 80/20 Cotton/Polyester Batting Package, Crib Size, 45 When needle-punched batting fibers are being compressed, a machine uses small needles to drive the fibers together. Batting is often manufactured with different types of fibers held together using different types of methods such as bonded, needle-punched, and scrim. “Scrim binder” is a very, very thin layer of poly that is needle-punched into the fibers & helps to hold them together better. Then again a couple year later I was pregnant. Mmm … It may explain why some of my quilts have beards … Thank you for the hint Suzy! Batting with a scrim is typically more stable that those without and less apt to stretch. Isn’t it amazing how these feelings were repressed for so many women until recently? It’s utterly stiff scrim free. Hahaha! Thx for the valuable info, How can you get the heavy feel of the vintage quilts? If the batting is needle punched, use that as your first choice for deciding direction. Does anyone make a heavy cotton batting or would you have to put two layers of batting to give that weighted feel of old quilts. Although my 34 year old daughter is married and my twin sons are now 29 I still recall and feel the loss of my other babies. Matchstick Quilting) - Suzy Quilts, https://suzyquilts.com/why-bamboo-batting-makes-the-perfect-summer-quilt/, Why Wool Batting Makes the Warmest Quilts - Suzy Quilts, Quilting on a Budget with Poly-Blend Batting - Suzy Quilts, FREE Quilted Christmas Stocking Pattern - Suzy Quilts, Why Cotton Batting Is The Most Popular Choice For Quilters - Suzy Quilts, How to Choose the Right Quilt Batting - Suzy Quilts, A Scrappy Modern Quilt: The Campfire Pattern. Thanks for stopping by and don’t forget to say, “Hi!” in the comments! I was 35 years old and had been going through infertility treatments for 4 years. That’s how beards are born, my friends. Then from your notes click save pdf to iBooks ( if you have an iPhone ) then go to I books and open and you can print the pdf. Required fields are marked *. Is there any way you can make it a PDF? What is the best batting. I have always put the smoother side of batting on top. Easy to remember and share with other quilters, especially young students, who totally get it! How do you know? Pingback: 6 Tips for Straight Line Machine Quilting (a.k.a. If you know the answer, I’d love to learn it. It also helps to prevent batting from stretching and distorting. Yay finally figured it out ! You can see these small holes afterwards if you look closely. Pingback: Why Wool Batting Makes the Warmest Quilts - Suzy Quilts. I will have flannel bottom, batting and large appliqued Pokémon (Snorlax) in the center. The older Warm and Natural I have - the "scrim" looks a lot like light weight non-woven Pellon that the cotton fibers were punches into. A couple years later I miscarried again, devastating. So gross but totally stuck in my head. With Quilter’s Dream batting, “request” refers to the loft of the batting. That should smooth them out. Now I know better. It helps keep the cotton fibers from separating when the quilt is washed. Thanks for the info. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Cotton shrinks 3-5% (pre-soak as needed). Good news! So you help me remember.. the needle goes like the batting punch dimples go. Triangle Jitters Quilt Pattern (Download). They don't have any padding on side but they do have batting and fabric (ripped) on seating area. It wasn’t until I was 8 months along that an ultrasound confirmed TWINS. These batting fibers are bonded together with thermal or resin bonding. It is their thinnest batt and comes in cotton and poly. Even though it seems like quilts would get the most “wear” on the quilt tops, if you think about it, the bottoms are always rubbing against whatever surface they are on… whether its the surface of the bed, or another surface altogether. I tried it with batting without scrim and it did not work. I miscarried one of what would have been twins. Thank you, I’m 71 years old and I,ve been quilting for at least 40 years and I have learned great deal from you. The lightweight cotton batting is 90" wide and comes pre-rolled for easy use. ?s Touch?? May I ask (unless I missed it somewhere within the posting) what category of batting would the Dream Cotton fall into? Fusible Batting Tape: Why You Need It and How to Use It, Why Bamboo Batting Makes the Best Summer Quilts, The Truth About Black Batting: When & Why to Use It - Suzy Quilts, Why Bamboo Batting Makes the Perfect Summer Quilt - Suzy Quilts, 6 Tips for Straight Line Machine Quilting (a.k.a. Batting seems pretty straightforward. Hi Matt - I get the smaller bolts of the Pellon Legacy at EE Schenck in Portland and I've really liked the 80/20 with scrim. I think either of those is exactly what you’re looking for. Thank you for sharing! First, there are bonded battings. Gee I am so confused, my hubby dear man went and brought me some cotton batting without scrim. If it is their cotton batting, it is needle-punched, so you’ll want the side with the dimples to face the top. The lightweight and soft stabilizing scrim binder provides strength and allows for a stitching area of up to 8-10″ apart. Stitch Distance: 8-10″. I needed The scrim side feels rough and course. Also thank you the one on the different batting! It is an excellent choice for both hand quilting and machine quilting. Love the dimples and pimples – that helped me ! P.S. Is this article available in printable form? Sometimes, it’s pretty easy to tell the right and wrong sides with this dimples vs. balls method. I am a hand quilter and only wish I had known this years ago! Cotton shrinks three to five percent (pre-soak as needed). You can read more about it here – https://suzyquilts.com/why-bamboo-batting-makes-the-perfect-summer-quilt/. Well you're in luck, because here they come. Just like some fabric doesn't have a right and wrong side (think batiks), not all batting does either. Has anyone used two batts on a domestic machine? However… I forget which way was the right way with the dimples. I do think the more people share their stories, the less we feel alone in our grief over miscarriage. Pingback: Quilting on a Budget with Poly-Blend Batting - Suzy Quilts, Pingback: FREE Quilted Christmas Stocking Pattern - Suzy Quilts, Wow this article about batting has been a mind bender. Something more catchy than “if it looks like my sweater does right now, flip it over.” But you get the idea. I believe if you go to your top toolbar you can hit Print under the File tab. I need to read your other two articles on batting, too. Some batting isn’t needle-punched at all (so if you don’t see those needle marks, don’t stress! Thank you for sharing this wonderful post. Thank you!!! All thoughts and prayers to you. I was told not long after getting married that I would have “trouble” conceiving. Great question! Welcome to the Motherhood club.. Possibly a bit less drape able. Yes, I heard the ” Show your dimples, hide your pimples” at a guild meeting earlier this year…. Or, you can separate the scrim at a corner of the batting like the image above. Having the scrim down reduces batting migration during this contact. Fusible Fleece by Pellon Quilt Batting. Warm an natural and thena higher loft cotton under a mid panel to make it stand out more when doing hand quilting. Excellent article. Also, if your batting came scrim-free, it's more likely to pull apart and tear. The only blend they have with a scrim is the Dream Blend (a 70/30 cotton/poly blend), and the scrim provides extra support when used on a longarm machine. Perfect for stitching that's up to eight inches apart, the Quilters Dream Mid … Due to the added strength, batting with scrim is especially great for those that are planning on a quilting design with big gaps. It is always nice to learn more about quilting. Scrim may have a slight sheen from the plastic coating rather than a matte finish like the non-scrim side. Do NOT use in projects intended for the microwave. I would have never even known what questions to ask. Even though most bamboo battings are needle-punched, they can still be particularly hard to tell which side is the "right" side. Perhaps I have a tendency to flip the batting upside down for some reason. After my doctors appointment he confirmed that I was about 3 months along, strange, I thought I had miscarried. I’ve been quilting for 44 years & never knew this! I did know there was a right and wrong side! We Carry. Hope to see pics of the nursery and of that little blessing before too long. Is Quilters Dream Request their cotton batting? Your email address will not be published. There are a few different non-needled types. That’s how I’m going to remember it too! Cotton shrinks 3-5% (pre-soak as needed). Anyone? Whether you’re a newbie or seasoned sewist, there’s sure to be something for you to enjoy. On the bottom of your phone hit the box with the arrow an top and save it to your notes. How to Detect the Non-scrim … Thanks for researching these batting issues. By logging into your account, you agree to our. The only blend they have with a scrim is the Dream Blend (a 70/30 cotton/poly blend), and the scrim provides extra support when used on a longarm machine. The heavily-needled, unique finish makes this the perfect batting for creating vintage and antique inspired quilts. This explains why some of them were difficult to quilt, broke needles and grew beards! Thank you for this invaluable information! I don’t really care about it being warm but so many of the battings are so thin you don’t get that nice heavy feeling that you get with the older quilts. To get the wrinkles out, you could mist both battings with a bit of water and toss them in the dryer on air fluff. Was it just era thing or there is something different about batting vs foam. I checked out the Quilters Dream website to make sure we had the info about the scrim right. I haven’t layered two before, but I’ve heard a lot of other people doing it. Today is my son’s birthday and he is 22 years old. If that's the case, it doesn't matter. Your email address will not be published. I’ll definitely check if the batting I use have a right side. Thanks again! You will probably get better info from us if you give the brand name of the batting, so people will know if they've used it before. But sometimes, it’s harder to see. Legacy battings with scrim binder allows stitched areas up to 8”-10” due to the durability of the added scrim. To do it would be helpful to know the answer, i ’ m going to remember too. Feelings were repressed for so many women until recently ( FYI it does n't matter these don t. 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